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I have been taking a cake decorating course that requires me to make this buttercream icing because, being Wilton, they claim that no other icing gets stiff enough to make their decorations, and that other icings won't crust the way this does. Problem is, I think it tastes gross and fake and sorta plastic and commercial, and not at all how I want the icing on my homemade cakes to taste.

I tried adding more vanilla and/or more butter flavouring to maybe make it taste better (I suspect the taste is from the shortening?) but it still tastes odd to me. The course instructor said we couldn't replace the shortening with butter because the icing wouldn't get as stiff as I need, and it wouldn't crust.

Is there a way to make a stiff consistency icing that doesn't taste so terrible?

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Interesting bit of history: That's the third official Wilton buttercream icing recipe I've seen. Growing up, my family had old Wilton shaped cake pans, which came with a booklet and an official recipe which contained butter. More recently, I saw a variant with shortening rather than butter, and expected "health concerns" caused the change. Now, the meringue powder is new. I don't know what causes the changes, but they always seem to make the icing taste worse. Great, stiff icing has been around for ages. Find a recipe you like, that you can decorate with, and ignore the "our way" crap. –  Scivitri May 25 '11 at 18:59
    
They claim that without the meringue powder the icing won't crust as easily, but I don't know how true or not that is. –  Ashley Nunn May 26 '11 at 3:35

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The ingredients they post are:

  • 1 cup solid vegetable shortening
  • 1 teaspoon Wilton Flavor (vanilla, almond or butter)
  • 7-8 teaspoons milk or water
  • 1 lb. confectioners' sugar
  • 1 tablespoon Meringue Powder
  • pinch of salt (optional)

I would make the following suggestions based on these ingredients:

  • It's not really butter cream icing if you're using vegetable shortening. You'll get far superior flavour by using butter. Pure butter may have trouble holding its shape, but you should have no trouble at all switching to a half-and-half mixture. This ratio won't change the colour much either.

  • I've never personally cared for the Wilton flavourings and suspect that is a major part of the problem here. If you're using the vanilla, it's not real vanilla, it's imitation vanilla extract; pure vanilla extract is dark brown and would colour the icing. Their almond flavour also seems to taste nothing like normal almond extract, and the butter flavour is thoroughly pointless (just use butter!).

    You can use real vanilla extract, but it will definitely darken the icing. You can try to compensate with an icing whitener, but those things are intended for slightly-off-white icings and probably won't get you all the way to white. Alternatively, you can use pure almond extract instead of the imitation; it is actually clear to begin with.

    Or, better yet, you can just change your brand. Lorann makes a bunch of concentrated flavouring oils that might taste less fake. If you go to any baking supply store you'll probably see other brands as well. Try a few until you find one that you like.

  • You don't say whether you're using milk or water, but use whole milk or even cream if you can; don't miss an opportunity to lay on the fat (and therefore flavour).

  • Finally, a lot of people (me, for example) find the taste of meringue powder to be disgusting. You don't need it, and the vast majority of buttercream icing recipes don't contain it.

    If you really want a meringue-based buttercream, as opposed to a simple buttercream without any egg products at all, then just go for broke and make it from an Italian meringue; whip some egg whites to soft peaks, then whip boiling sugar syrup into the eggs until the mixture stiffens, and afterward incorporate the butter and other flavourings.

    I know, they're going to tell you that it won't be stiff enough. But stabilizing a meringue is dead easy; just bloom some gelatin in the cold liquid (water/milk/cream) before you incorporate it1. The more gelatin, the stiffer it will get. Don't overdo it because if you add too much gelatin, you won't even be able to get it out of the bag (this has happened to me). A 1% ratio should be plenty.

Making a great-tasting decorating icing is easy. Stiffness isn't usually the problem, colour is. If you want brilliant white icing then you have to make certain tradeoffs. If you're willing to settle for a cream colour (or slightly whiter, with a whitener) then you've got nothing to worry about.


1. If you're not starting with a hot meringue, then be sure to heat the liquid with bloomed gelatin to dissolve before adding it to the icing!

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@Aaronut- Nice answer. –  Sobachatina May 25 '11 at 18:49
    
+1: A thousand times this. –  Satanicpuppy May 25 '11 at 19:23
    
Oh, this is awesomely helpful. I was using real, pure vanilla flavouring, but kept their butter flavouring (as the instructor told me it would make the shortening taste like butter.) I doubted it was actually anything tasty, though, as it smelled like chemicals. Now I know better. :) –  Ashley Nunn May 26 '11 at 3:37
    
Your suggestions might work fine for just spreading frosting on a cake, or even piping, but if you're going to be trying to make flowers, getting the right stiffness is very important. If it is too soft, it'll kinda balloon out as it leaves the tip of the bag, which will make your nice, delicate flowers look like play doh blobs –  Joe May 26 '11 at 8:46
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@Joe: I'm well aware of that, which is why I put in the paragraph about gelatin at the end. The only reason the original recipe works so well is because it's basically nothing but shortening softened up with a tiny bit of liquid. If you're going to make tasteless buttercream then you might as well just bite the bullet and go with gum paste, which probably tastes better anyway. But it's trivially easy to stiffen any kind of cream preparation (including buttercream) with gelatin, up to the point where you can't even get it out of the bag. –  Aaronut May 26 '11 at 11:21

Aaronut nailed the answer. He's 100% correct. Now, for my 2 cents.

The three obvious problems are the shortening, the flavoring, and the meringue powder. That's obvious just looking at the recipe. Even Wilton agrees, amusingly (I'd cut out the vegetable shortening entirely.) This is more my style.

But you wouldn't need someone to tell you this if you tasted. For a no-cook item like icing, you need to TASTE the ingredients. Taste the flavoring. Stick your finger in it and lick it. Is it good? Does it have a weird chemical flavor? Taste the nasty nasty vegetable shortening (then throw it out the window. Yuck.) See how it's not as good as butter? Taste the meringue powder. Blech.

Every flavor you put in icing is going to shine through. I live in a humid area, so I constantly need to tinker with consistency, and that is impossible if you don't understand your flavors. Don't be afraid to taste it at every step of the process, and, if it tastes bad when you finish, throw it out and start over. Don't ruin good cake with mediocre icing.

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I am amused that they have that other recipe! The one I posted is the one in the course book, and the one that was insisted upon. I ended up giving a lot of the cake and such away when I used it because I hated the taste. Some people didn't mind it, but I am generally of the idea that if I am going to bake something, I want ALL of it to taste awesome. –  Ashley Nunn May 26 '11 at 3:39

It's been a few years since I took cake decorating courses, but when I took Wilton 2 and 3, my instructor gave us an alternate recipe to use. It might not crust up quite as fast as the one with meringue powder, but it was fine for the humidity that we have in Maryland. (although, I admit, DC metro, not eastern shore). I've made it a few times using meringue powder in place of the cream of tartar ... I assumed it had to be a mistake the first time I made it, and both work fine. I haven't done a side by side comparison to see which one crusts up first, but I'm guessing the meringue one.

To respond to some of the comments made so far ... Wilton Buttercream is not a real buttercream ... it is stable at warm temperatures, and is much less finicky when trying to make flowers, etc. It's also pure white, so you won't get off colors when you are trying to tint it. I'd leave out the butter flavor, as you don't need it ... The sugar and fat pretty much hide any flavors you have.

And one other possible source of off flavors -- oxidized shortening. I keep a can that I use for greasing pans if I'm not specifically using cake release, but for frosting, I use the sticks. They're tightly wrapped, so less exposure to air, and easier to measure.

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I would start by looking at the confectioner's sugar. Often these come with additives like corn starch to keep from caking, which to me gives an "off" taste. Try to find one without the anti-caking agent, or make your own. Caster/superfine sugar could be a viable substitute as well, which would avoid the issue.

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I have used the same brand of icing sugar in both this icing and others that I have made (that do not have the weird plastic taste.) So I am not entirely sure that that is it, unless it is reacting weird with something else. And wouldn't superfine sugar leave a somewhat grainy texture? –  Ashley Nunn May 25 '11 at 18:17
    
@ashley, I always use castor sugar. I dissolve it in the egg (whole egg, so I am beating it to ribbon stage) and there is nothing in the texture to worry about. If you leave the meringue out, dissolve the sugar in the milk they prescribe., –  rumtscho May 25 '11 at 19:06

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