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I have done this in the past but didn't really get the pie to turn out like I expect. I am wondering if I am not cooking it at the correct temperature since all the other aspects of the apple-choco pie recipe have been followed.

Here is the recipe: ingredients

For the chocolate pastry:
3/4 cup plain wheat flour (maida)
3 tbsp cocoa powder
5 tbsp powdered sugar
4 tbsp butter/ghee

For the filling:
2 apples chopped in small pieces
2 tbsp brown sugar
2 tbsp chopped nuts (walnut, cashew)

Make the pastry: mix all the ingredients in a bowl and add the butter into the flour, till it resembles bread crumbs. Add 1 tablespoon of cold water to gently knead it into a firm dough. Refrigerate for 15 minutes. Roll out 2/3 of the dough into a circle. Prick with fork at regular intervals and refrigerate for 10 minutes. Bake it in a pre-heated oven at 300°F for 15 minutes.

Make the filling: mix the apple(chopped), sugar, walnuts & keep aside.

Place the filling on the half baked chocolate pastry and sprinkle the sugar mixture on top. Cover with the remaining rolled out chocolate pastry and seal the edges. Prick the top of the pie with a fork at regular intervals. Bake in a pre-heated oven at 300°F until golden brown.

But it still didn't have the taste I wanted. In fact, it wasn't baked properly. What mistakes were there that resulted in the base of the pie being sticky?

What other fruit can I use instead of apples, other than dry fruits? Which tastes better than apples?

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Do you have a recipe that you followed, perhaps? It would be much easier to gauge how long and at what temperature this should be cooked if we know what's in it. –  colejkeene Jan 31 '13 at 19:40
    
this seems like more of a my recipe didn't work please help problem rather than a distinct question separate from say a question regarding baking temperatures for pie. If there is something specific to this type of pie or how it is produced please list that so we can help clarify the question. –  Brendan Jan 31 '13 at 20:50
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Unanswerable as-is, but feel free to edit this with a recipe and an explanation of what went wrong and we'll reopen it. –  Aaronut Feb 1 '13 at 6:21
    
Thanks for providing the recipe. I don't think anyone is going to be able to tell you what to do about the apples tasting bad ("yukks"), but I think we can at least help with the issue of it not getting baked properly. (@Aaronut Looks okay to go ahead and reopen now I think, even though it's not perfect.) –  Jefromi Feb 1 '13 at 20:21
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@Sunishtha Singh - If you have a second question, you should really post a second question rather than adding it here. You should also be more specific about why you want a substitution for the apples; "tastes better" is very subjective. FWIW - I think that apples + chocolate is a weird flavor combination, but your pastry recipe doesn't actually have much chocolate in it. Are you using butter or ghee? They're really quite different; ghee has less water and milk solids than butter. Using one or the other would make a big difference in your pie crust's texture. –  KatieK Feb 5 '13 at 18:06
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We can only guess at the cause of your quality problems with the bottom crust.

If it is due to excess moisture from the filling seeping into the crust, there are two main approaches you might take.

  1. Par-heat the apples (as recommended by Kenji Alt) after they are cut up, but prior to baking. This will help set the pectin and cause them to loose less moisture into the pie as it is baked. You can do this in the microwave, or by pouring hot water over them. See the link for details.

  2. Create a barrier layer between the bottom crust and the filling with a complimentary ingredient moisture will not (quickly) penetrate.


Protecting bottom crust with a barrier

I would suggest using a thin layer of semi-sweet or bitter-sweet chocolate. Complimentary thick preserves, such as apple or peach may also work:

  1. Blind-bake the crust as directed (bake it without a filling). Edit: It is strange that your recipe does not say to dock the crust before blind baking, nor to use pie weights, or rice, or something to keep it from bubbling up and buckling.
  2. Spread melted chocolate (or preserves) in the shell.
  3. Pour the filling on top, being careful not to disturb the barrier layer too much.
  4. Bake as normal.

Quality of Recipe

The recipe has a number of strange aspects, as Jefromi and I have both noted in our answers such as a low temperature, time/temperature ratio for the apples, not specifying type of apples, in addition to poor blind baking instructions.

You might be better off searching for a better quality recipe that tickles your fancy.

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Adding a barrier is a decent idea, though usually a fully pre-baked crust doesn't suffer too badly from a short baking time, especially with minimal liquid. –  Jefromi Feb 2 '13 at 0:53
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@Jefromi Agreed. The recipe is very, very strange. –  SAJ14SAJ Feb 2 '13 at 0:54
    
as i baked first tym with help of my frnd n so recipe given by her.i don noe what went wrong while baking & why ,but when i ate @ her place i felt quite gud. –  Sunishtha Singh Feb 4 '13 at 9:01
    
I agree, this recipe seems to be missing some key pointers on how to execute it properly. I imagine this is one of those situations where your friend is making a lot of assumptions about your knowledge in the kitchen or isn't thinking through her process and documenting it for you properly. –  Brendan Feb 5 '13 at 20:35
    
@Brendan can you provide that missing procedure for this apple pie recipie –  Sunishtha Singh Feb 6 '13 at 8:26
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The pre-baking of the pastry is missing a "how to tell when it's done" instruction. My guess is there's a good chance you didn't bake it long enough. In general, when pre-baking plain pie crusts, you're aiming for golden brown. It's a bit harder to tell when it's got the brown from the chocolate in it, but if you look closely you should still be able to see the change in color. It should also just look cooked - a bit of texture develops on the surface and it appears to have dried out. As SAJ14SAJ suggests, you also normally pre-bake crusts with weights in them to keep them from bubbling too much. (This is also why you poke holes.) A common method is to cover with a piece of foil, then fill with dry beans.

As for temperature, in my experience, pie crusts are generally pre-baked at 350°F. But the important thing is to check and know when it's done.

Now, baking the filled pie. This is the weird thing - usually apple pies don't use pre-baked crusts, because it takes more like an hour to fully cook the apples til they're soft. Maybe you didn't like the apples because they were still crunchy and a bit raw, and the flavor hadn't smoothed out with the nuts and sugar? If that's the case, you may want to skip pre-baking the crust, and instead fill and cover the pie and bake it all together, for 45 minutes to an hour. If the crust browns too much, you can loosely cover it with foil.

If on the other hand, you like the apples like that, or the quantity of apples is sufficiently small that they're actually cooking fully, then sure, stick to the recipe. (You could increase the temperature to 350°F here too, but that'll mean the crust is done when the apples are even less done.) If you've properly pre-baked the crust, you shouldn't have problems with the bottom of the pie being undercooked.

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I wondered about the cooking through of the apples too... but there is such a small volume of filling in this pie. My guess is it might be thinner and cook more quickly with less depth to penetrate, but hard to tell. Certainly worth considering. I agree on the temperature seeming quite low. The blind bake without instructions to dock, and to use something to keep it from buckling is also odd. –  SAJ14SAJ Feb 2 '13 at 0:33
    
@SAJ14SAJ Right, I totally missed that it didn't include the normal blind baking technique. I'm not sure about the apples cooking fully, though - it'll be faster with less, but it also just takes time for them to slowly soften at that temperature. –  Jefromi Feb 2 '13 at 0:38
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I agree on the time/temperature conundrum. With the number of strange things in this recipe, I have to wonder if it is a tested recipe--the OP may be better off finding a quality recipe he or she likes. –  SAJ14SAJ Feb 2 '13 at 0:40
    
+1 for thinking of different possible causes; I think between the two answers most of the likely candidates are covered. –  SAJ14SAJ Feb 2 '13 at 0:56
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