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Okay. I have a plate with chicken and salad. I want to heat the chicken, but keep my salad cold. What kinds of food-safe materials could I use to keep food from heating in the microwave?

chicken and salad

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Material 1: It's an exotic metal alloy called take-the-salad-off-the-plate-anium. –  joshphysics Apr 30 '13 at 21:39
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@joshphysics, lol there are also things called laziness and curiosity. –  user194076 Apr 30 '13 at 21:44
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@joshphysics You beat me to it :P For the lazier people there's also material 2: take-the-chicken-off-the-plate-and-heat-it-on-a-second-plate-illium. –  Wouter Apr 30 '13 at 21:50
    
In the name of scientific laziness and curiosity, just wrap the salad in aluminium foil .AND. don't allow anybody to stay in the kitchen while the oven is working (that includes you of course). What you won't be able to avoid is some lettuce heating due to the hot vapors from the steak. Don't make the oven work that way very long, since there is some risk that you ruin it, by reflecting microwaves in directions where materials are not designed to receive them so directly. –  Eduardo Guerras Valera Apr 30 '13 at 22:13
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There's a meta question about this; I'm of the opinion that this is answerable even if it appears silly, but it appears that four close-voters disagree with me. –  Jefromi May 3 '13 at 0:39
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Most of the answers here are taking the wrong approach. Instead of taking the salad off of the plate, you should move the chicken to its own plate during heating and move it back to the salad plate once it has been heated.

The salad in the picture appears to be fairly delicate. Moving it to another plate may destroy it. When chicken is heated up in a microwave, its liquids tend to make a mess on the chicken's container or plate. By heating the chicken on a plate other than the one you will be eating off of, your eating plate will be cleaner and your salad will remain isolated from any flavor of chicken.

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That still boils down to the same thing: don't put the salad in the microwave. –  SAJ14SAJ May 28 '13 at 22:17
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Don't put the salad in the microwave.

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Microwaves essentially pervade the cooking chanmber inside the microwave oven, and excite any polar molecules, especially including water and some polar fats.

Since vegetables—salad—are nearly all water, they are exceptionally easy to heat in a microwave oven.

You might then ask: why not "insulate" the vegetables to keep them from getting warm. After all, you could put them in a regular oven covered by a thick towel, and they would heat more slowly. In truth, even in a conventional oven, the simplest way to not heat something you don't want to be heated is to not put it in the oven.

However, in the microwave it is even less practical to prevent excitation of any given food. Microwave ovens are designed to reflect the microwaves into the food from all angles, including the bottom. Almost all microwave safe cooking vessels (or plates, as show in the picture above) are completely transparent to microwaves, so they will not protect the food.

If the vessel was not transparent to microwaves, it would not be usable in the microwave for the most part.

As others have pointed out, a Faraday Cage (a conductive metal mesh with hole sizes substantially smaller than the wavelength of the microwaves—about 12 cm in most home style microwave ovens) can prevent the waves from penetrating. However, this would have to completely surround the food item, in order to protect it.

It would also have to have no edges or bends smaller than about 1 cm radius in order to prevent arcing due to edge effects. A sphere would be most ideal, and least practical.

The Faraday cage itself heats up due to the movement of electrons within it under the influence of those microwaves that are not reflected. This why the energy does does not penetrate.

Lastly, the other food in the microwave will still heat, and so the oven itself will warm up through the normal modes of convection and air conduction from the heated food, which may warm the food to be protected indirectly.

So the simplest, most practical way is to leave the food you don't want to heat outside of the microwave in the first place.

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Thanks, this is a good explanation. I'm curious how well some kind of flexible thin-wire mesh fabric would work. It could likely avoid the arcing issues, right? And though the microwaves do come from all around, if the distance between the mesh and the bottom of the microwave is also relatively small (compared to the microwave wavelength), there shouldn't be much energy below it. –  Jefromi May 3 '13 at 16:17
    
The thickness of the wires matters, and I don't know the detailed physics enough to speculate in detail. But yes, in concept this would work, if it wasn't bent into any short radii. –  SAJ14SAJ May 3 '13 at 16:23
    
@Jefromi Ironically, the folks at Physics could better answer that! –  SAJ14SAJ May 3 '13 at 16:26
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OK, so the obvious "don't put salad in the microwave" answer has been given. And I agree.

BUT, think about the microwave door. You can see through it, but microwaves don't come buzzing out of it and burn your eyes. You'll notice that the door contains a metal mesh, which creates a "Faraday Cage".

See here for more information about blocking microwaves

You "could" build a dome-shaped Faraday cage to put over your salad, but I suspect that it would not be protected from below. Plus heat will be conducted from your chicken, through the plate, and into the salad. Plus it would probably invalidate the warranty for your microwave oven!

So, to be honest, the best thing is to take the salad off the plate first. When I ran my pub's kitchen, I would prepare the salads on a tray, and then lift them onto the plate just before the food was taken out (e.g. for steaks). This way, the hot food went out really hot, and the salad was only on the plate for 15 seconds before it was at the customer's table.

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The problem with the faraday cage approach is that any sharp edges (at the border) will cause arcing inside the oven. The entire microwave is itself a faraday cage, so leaving the salad outside accomplishes this goal! –  SAJ14SAJ May 1 '13 at 11:12
    
+1 for actually seriously attempting to answer the question, and for pointing out that heating from below is a problem, which makes concerns about arcing kind of a moot point - even a perfect shield wouldn't help unless you could stick it under the salad, at which point it's probably just as easy to take the salad off. –  Jefromi May 3 '13 at 0:59
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The simple answer is you can't be selective with how things get heated in the microwave. If you put salad in it will get heated. The device you are looking for to solve this issue is called a bowl, and you put the salad in it while the food in the microwave heats, then use devices called salad spoons to move it from the bowl to the plate.

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Do you have a citation for this bowl technology? :-) –  SAJ14SAJ May 1 '13 at 11:05
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Not off the top of my head, better downvote ;) –  GdD May 1 '13 at 11:33
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