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I have noticed that tomato sauce (having started with deep red tomatoes) can turn orange.

The colour change isn't from mixing in an ingredient of different colour such as cream. It seems to occur in these observed circumstances:

  • Blended using a blender or an immersion blender (boat motor). The colour change is noticeable quickly (30 seconds or so)

  • Cooked tomato sauce for a long time (hours)

The sauce stays nice and red if taken off the heat quickly and not blended.

Some of the ideas are:

  • Oxidization: the immersion blender doesn't incorporate much air so this is unlikely.
  • pH change: this usually requires adding of other items such as vinegar.
  • Breakdown of seeds or something else in the tomatoes releasing something that causes the change in colour. Although I think I've seen seedless tomato sauce also go orange.

This question also seems to have been asked on the serious eats forum without a substantive answer.

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    Part of it might be the same phenomenon as what happens to egg yolks when you beat them very thoroughly: changing the physical structure of something can change its color, even though you're not really changing it in any chemical sense.
    – Marti
    Apr 30, 2013 at 16:15
  • If it's the seeds, you might be able to test it; take some out, and crush (food mill) vs. blend with seeds vs. blend w/out seed (crush, strain seeds (if not already done) and blend)
    – Joe
    Aug 22, 2014 at 12:34
  • Just to note: the word "oxidation" is misinterpreted here - air/oxygen isn't required for oxidation to occur.
    – Niall
    Feb 4, 2017 at 20:12

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Update:

It's been a few years but there now is a definite answer to this question.

@PegDat is correct. The Tomatoes Oxidize when they are exposed to air and turn orange. enter image description here

This was proved using an experiment with vacuum blender air free blender blending tomatoes with air and with most of the air pumped out.

When you reduce the air in the blender chamber, the tomatoes remain bright red.

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  • "there now is a definite answer to this question" -- Citation?
    – Jason C
    Feb 4, 2017 at 22:46
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    @JasonC (op) personally performed this experiment with a blender manufacturer live at CES 2017. You can google for other similar images.
    – MandoMando
    Feb 5, 2017 at 17:37
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I learned that using an electric blender adds oxygen to the sauce and changes the red to orange (like beating egg yolks lightens them from orange to a pale yellow). If you use a food mill, you don't beat in oxygen, and the tomato sauce stays red.

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This often happens when the tomatoes used are not fully mature. Although apparently are completely red, the parties less red lighten the sauce.

Alternatively, depends on the quality of tomatoes. The Native Americans tomatoes were yellow (hence the Italian name "golden apple" = "pomo d'oro" = "pomodoro"). Through the selections have become red. But remaining mixed colors, which are "not red" but "reddish". Or yellow - orange.

In the United States, the orange tomatoes are sold seasonally in the markets of agricultural producers: it is "heirloom tomatoes" or "tomatoes tradition" (heirloom tomatoes), ie those that were cultivated before 1800 and which for centuries delighted the palates of our ancestors.

The study conducted by the chemist Betty J. Burry and biologist Betty K. Ishida has shown that orange tomatoes contain more lycopene (an important antioxidant molecule) of the common red tomatoes.

The difference is due to the chemical form of lycopene in red tomatoes that occurs in the trans form while in the orange tomatoes in tetra-cis form. Research conducted in California and in Ohio (USA) have shown that the form of the tetra-cis lycopene is more efficiently absorbed by the body compared to the trans form.

The research group has also assessed the oxidative damage: lycopene and other antioxidant molecules, in fact, may protect both the cells and the essential fatty acids from oxidation. Using a procedure known as "TBARS assay" the researchers noted that oxidative damage is decreased by consuming tomato sauce and tomato sauce red orange, but the damage reduction was greater in the diet that included the consumption of orange tomatoes. (*)

(*)pomodori arancioni

Data di pubblicazione: 05/07/2012 Autore: Emanuela Fontana Copyright: www.freshplaza.it

Personally I can say that in the diets of very young children less red tomatoes (fresh, peeled and seeded) are preferred, because they are more digestible and light.

PS A very prolonged cooking of the sauce, on the contrary, gives a very dark and indigestible sauce (tomato paste) which is used more as a seasoning for cooking of regional recipes. Is never used on pasta, as the taste is altered and too strong.


EDIT

Yes it happens very often, and we all start with deep red tomatoes, san marzano and so on. But often the salsa comes oranges. Someone says in this forum that it comes from blending tomatoes after mixing with oil. But I never put so much oil to think that it could depend by oil. And it happens to me too. And the other persons disagree too.

Everyone does buy san marzano tomatoes (or similar), very mature and red. But when you cut them, inside they can be hard and a bit pale, not really red. And flavonoid and lycopene are into any tomato, just in different or more or less visible quantity. (flavonoyd becomes from latin: flavus = yellow or blond / leukos is from greek = white).


To me, since the original DNA is yellow, it could be that some genetic trait has remained, not limited to only one quality but in general the whole botanical species, and sometimes emerges.

The major dietary source of lycopene is represented by the tomato (Solanum lycopersicum) from which it takes its name, and its derivatives, in which represents 60% of the total content in carotenoids. The lycopene content is influenced by the level of maturation of the tomato, has been calculated that in fact red and ripe tomatoes are present 50 mg / kg of lycopene.

But of course, i can wrong.

flavonoidi / lycopen


some history

"The date of his arrival in Europe in 1540 when the Spaniard Hernán Cortés returned to his homeland and brought the specimens, but its cultivation and propagation waited until the second half of the seventeenth century. Arrives in Italy in 1596 but only later, finding favorable climatic conditions in the south of the country, you have the color change of its color from the original and distinctive gold color, which gave its name to the plant, the current red, thanks to selections and subsequent grafts."


EDIT II @ MandoMando

Yes, I agree. What you say agrees with my experience. I must say that it is false that "many often" happens, it just happens sometimes. Normally remain red.

But I never use electrical equipment, only hand devices, like these:

tompass verdpass

The first is precisely for the tomato sauce. The second pass any cooked vegetables.

But if you want, you can tray the ancient recipe, that I use only when I have guests and I want to offer some pasta with a fresh made sauce.

You must blanch the tomatoes in boiling water until the skin breaks down (usually 20-30 seconds). Then remove the tomatoes from the water and peel them right away, still intact and hot. This is the method used by our grandmothers who were canned. After removing the skin, you can put the whole tomatoes into the jars and sterilize them. Or you can make a sauce with olive oil, salt and herbs (as I do) or with other ingredients such as carrots, celery or whatever.

I do not think that modern industries for storage of tomato sauce still use this method. But our grandmothers and women in the south had for days hotted hands, to catch tons of hot tomatoes from boiling water.


In any case, more I reflect about it, and more I am convinced that the selection process, during lasted centuries, to obtain the current red color, is perhaps lately put aside for other selective criteria, such as the shape and the small amount of seeds contained, that maybe are privileged because more attractive to customers.

Perhaps we have forgotten the original yellow color (except a few cultured people), which today tends to reappear.

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    The question says "having started with deep red tomatoes", so I'm not sure all the stuff about actual orange tomatoes applies. Seems like it's really just your first paragraph that addresses the question.
    – Cascabel
    Apr 30, 2013 at 16:16
  • Voiladaprile oh they are San Marzano tomatoes. @Jefromi is right, they start out nice and deep red and if you take them off the heat quick, the sauce stays red. The long cooking is for a couple of hours as done in central Italy. Nice to know the info on lycopene though.
    – MandoMando
    Apr 30, 2013 at 16:27
  • more nice info violadaprile. I've noticed that I can keep the sauce red if I don't blend it for long (5 seconds) and take it off the heat quickly. there must be something more to this.
    – MandoMando
    May 3, 2013 at 13:40
  • Try that. I never use the electric device but always a hand one. Maybe it could do some difference. Though, tomatoes become orange (if they have to become) in the pan yet. May 3, 2013 at 14:01
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    Is the suggestion here that the heating and blending are turning the lycopene from one form to another? You never actually said that (I'm just inferring), and this answer has accumulated enough side information that it's really hard to find an actual answer in.
    – Cascabel
    May 3, 2013 at 17:40
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I think it is mixing the basil with the other ingredients. My sauce stays red, half my family like it chunky, the other half prefer blended. The blended changes to orange color.

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We don't use a blender. But what we do is cook the sauce all day with pork neck bones. Always thought this was the reason, but maybe I'm wrong.

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