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Our pantry is packed to the hilt, we have food stashed everywhere.... yet with the famine in route we still need more. We have an empty single door commercial fridge in the pole building. I figure we could get 300 16oz cans or better in it.

My thoughts are to set the fridge high (like 60F) and load it down with canned food for long term storage. This would add a nice 90 days to our supply cheaply.

In Ohio, temps in pole barn range -10 to 110.

Thoughts?

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    Famine in Ohio?
    – moscafj
    Aug 22, 2019 at 11:29
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    @moscafj It's a survivalism thing. Silly but not disqualifying. ;-)
    – Sneftel
    Aug 22, 2019 at 15:04
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    @Sneftel I'm not judging...but it is the state next to mine, so I am curious.
    – moscafj
    Aug 22, 2019 at 15:17
  • Food shortages & famine yes, heavy, to start about November. Not Ohio alone, the whole world. Back to the cans :)
    – John
    Aug 22, 2019 at 20:20
  • Canned goods are probably less of a problem and people storing 5 gallon containers of stuff, but a mistake that many preppers make is to actually eat the food they're storing (to rotate it before it spoils, to make sure they won't get sick of it, and more importantly, to make sure they don't have any allergies/intolerances to it)
    – Joe
    Aug 24, 2019 at 0:10

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If you're talking about commercially canned food, like from the supermarket, then at 60°F [15°C] You've pretty much got until the cans rust.

Practically, no limit. Sensibly, 2 - 5 years.

'Best Before' dates on cans in the UK are typically between 1 & 2 years - but 'best before' is only a guide as to how 'like new' the product will be, with full flavour & texture as designed. It is not a guide as to when it would become unsafe.

I can't think in Fahrenheit, so I hadn't realised how much of a swing -10 to 110 actually is, so the next part doesn't really work anymore, until you get to 'bury it underground'.

I don't think even small temperature fluctuations would affect shelf-life, but as you can control it, I would do, just to be doubly-certain… although if 90 days is going to be your top limit, then I'd probably not even power up the fridge, just keep the door shut. If you think internal temperatures may still exceed the USDA's limits, invest in a high/low [max/min] thermometer.

From comments - if this really is some kind of 'survivalist' thing, then forget the power & bury it deep enough that temperature fluctuations will no longer affect it critically. [I'm only half joking there; if there's no food, what makes you think there's going to be power… once your generator runs dry].

From Wikipedia - Shelf Life

According to the USDA, "canned foods are safe indefinitely as long as they are not exposed to freezing temperatures, or temperatures above 90 °F (32.2° C)". If the cans look okay, they are safe to use. Discard cans that are dented, rusted, or swollen. High-acid canned foods (tomatoes, fruits) will keep their best quality for 12 to 18 months; low-acid canned foods (meats, vegetables) for 2 to 5 years.

Anecdotally, I once opened a can of condensed milk which we estimated had been forgotten in a cupboard at nominally 15-20°C for twenty years. It had solidified to a kind of jelly with huge sugar crystals in it, but smelled just fine & was still roughly the right colour. No, we didn't try eating it to see.

Late Edit:
Since the subject cropped up of fridges condensing & potentially corroding the cans, or additionally keeping the correct temperature at an ambient temperature below that it is supposed to be internally, I decided to look into this.
No fridge is good from -10 to 110°F [-23°C to 43°C]
No fridge is good below the temperature it is supposed to be keeping.

Fridges have Climate Classes, temperature ranges they can operate in.

  • SN (Sub Normal) +10°C - +32°C
  • N (Normal) +16°C - +32°C
  • ST (Sub Tropical) +18°C - +38°C

That's it. That's all there is.
Fridges are designed to be used "indoors" in already climate-controlled conditions, not in the garage nor out in a shed exposed to massive temperature fluctuations.
You might depend on its insulation to hold off a few hours of the extreme at the sun's zenith, or a sharp frost overnight, but you are going to have to put it underground to prevent that massive heat swing from having a seriously deleterious effect long-term.

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    +1 I've opened tins that are a good few years out of date and never found the contents spoiled. The limit is often when you can't get into the tin without surface rust getting into the food
    – Chris H
    Aug 22, 2019 at 10:29
  • @ChrisH, also, be certain to listen and watch as you pierce the lid when opening the can. The can should not expel any air. It might suck in air (normal, okay) but should never expel air. That's a sign of bacterial action and somthing that you don't want to consume. Aug 22, 2019 at 11:21
  • @Ring For commercially canned foods that's not a useful indicator. If they're still sealed, there's no bacterial action. If they're not still sealed, there's no difference in pressure.
    – Sneftel
    Aug 22, 2019 at 15:01
  • The fridge would only run during the hot months, once highs hit <65 I will turn it off till next summer. The refrigeration doesn't matter as much as a good spot for 500cans (or whatever fits well). If the generator quits this is fine, time to likely start using the food and still have a few years to do so.
    – John
    Aug 22, 2019 at 20:25
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While cans will stay good “indefinitely” at average room temperature (as explained in Tetsujin’s answer, +1), I would discourage the idea of placing them in a refrigerator. In a refrigerator, you will often see condensation and the main weakness a metal can has is rust. This shouldn’t be a serious issue with well-manufactured cans, but why take the risk?

Using the refrigerator as storage cupboard is probably perfectly ok and it may even buffer extreme temperatures, but I would save the electricity and leave it off. (Or use it for something else entirely.)

For your cans, find a dry spot in a somewhat temperate room and you will be good to go. If you have to choose between humidity and temperature fluctuations, I’d probably pick the latter, as it will only affect the sensory quality of the food while the former can ultimately lead to spoilage due to damaged cans.

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  • Ahh.. I hadn't considered that. I do have one small, very cheap fridge we keep beer in which does get condensation under the ice-box - very old-fashioned design - though the beer's never there long enough for it to be a concern ;) but our 'real' fridge is self-dehumidifying/defrosting, so that simply never happens.
    – Tetsujin
    Aug 22, 2019 at 15:14
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    I found a rust ring left by a can of marmalade a while ago, and one of our fridges is a bit tricky to close, so negligent minors have given us a fridge where everything was very “dewy” occasionally. Oops...
    – Stephie
    Aug 22, 2019 at 15:18
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    Ahh… I see. I've only adults to deal with, but a light smear of Vaseline on the seal [at the hinge side] really helps for those who vaguely swing the door in the general direction of closed, but never check if it gets there ;) A very slight back-tilt helps too.
    – Tetsujin
    Aug 22, 2019 at 15:29
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I would say no. A fridge is designed to cool, not heat. So the assumption is that ambient temperature is above the temperature set for the fridge. If the temperature drops to -10 F, then the cans may freeze.

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