I've been trying to bake a no-knead bread (like everyone else), and I've gone with Binging with Babish's recipe.

In his video, after leaving the dough to rise overnight (or so), and then working it a bit to form a ball, the result is this:

Babish Bread Bashing

It's a nice and (relatively) taut ball of dough. I've followed his recipe and substituted the bread flour with AP flour, which all indications suggest wouldn't make a lot of difference.

My first batch was very wet, and upon inspection, his recipe is nearly 80% hydration (400g flour for 1+1/3 cup of water, which according to my conversion is about 315g water). So I tried again, and this time I've adjusted for 65(ish)% hydration. While the result was easier to handle, it still felt closer to a thick batter than to anything like his video.

Finally, I've tried the suggestion of J. Kenji López-Alt to put the dough in the fridge for a while since cold makes the dough easier to manage. While it was definitely easier to manage, it was still pretty thin, and when I've proofed the dough, it spread further like the previous ones.

Is bread flour really that different? Is this all the AP flour fault?

I'm asking because I end up with a rather low-rise bread, and I think that is at least in part due to the fact that when the dough is placed into the dutch oven, it's already pretty flat (compared to the picture and the result in the video).

The recipe I've used this time:

  1. 400g flour,
  2. 1/2 teaspoon of yeast,
  3. 67% hydration,
  4. 1.5% salt (I've done 2% in the past, and will return to doing so because of the superior flavour).

Mix with a wooden spoon, cover and let sit over night. As per the suggestion of J. Kenji López-Alt, let another day of relaxation in the fridge. Rolled into a round loaf, proofed for an hour while the dutch oven was warming up, baked for 30 minutes with lid, another 15 without, left to cool on a wire rack for a couple of hours.

  • Could you include the actual recipe, including both ingredients and method, in your question?
    – LSchoon
    Commented Aug 14, 2020 at 15:15
  • @LSchoon: What I ended up doing (each time) or the one from Binging with Babish?
    – Ink blot
    Commented Aug 14, 2020 at 16:29
  • Either. As moscafj's answer states, there are many variables that can influence how the dough comes out. We can help you much better if we know exactly what method you used.
    – LSchoon
    Commented Aug 15, 2020 at 9:33
  • (It's been two days and no additional help was given, I understand why I should have put the recipe at the start, but now I'm not so sure why it was important that I edit it in...)
    – Ink blot
    Commented Aug 19, 2020 at 9:34
  • I asked for a recipe before your question received an answer. The answer you received ended up covering several possible problems, so no additional information seemed necessary. FWIW, I think moscafj's suggestion that your dough needs to be worked more is correct, given that your recipe shows you only mix and shape the dough.
    – LSchoon
    Commented Aug 19, 2020 at 10:04

1 Answer 1


Bread flour has a higher protein content than AP flour. That should aid in the development of the gluten structure of your dough. So, bread flour will help, but that might not be your only issue. No-knead, doesn't necessarily mean mix it together and leave it alone. (I did watch the video...I see he doesn't knead, but his dough does not look like it is a high hydration dough). There are many variables that influence water absorption in flours...so often a formula will behave differently in your kitchen and with your ingredients. From your description it sounds like your dough needs more structure, and would benefit from the use of techniques that build that structure. The most obvious is kneading, but slap and fold (or stretch and fold) is often incorporated into high hydration formulas. There is a learning curve, so reducing your hydration is a good way to get a feel for things...but I suspect that you need to work on building the gluten structure.

  • Thanks for the advice. Do these techniques take place before or after the autolysis process?
    – Ink blot
    Commented Aug 14, 2020 at 16:33
  • @Inkblot generally afterward.
    – moscafj
    Commented Aug 14, 2020 at 19:49
  • I just tried (wow, it's been a while!) to make this bread again, and this time with bread flour. The difference is uncanny. I started with 65% hydration, but ended up with 72% because it was not fully hydrated.
    – Ink blot
    Commented Dec 18, 2020 at 11:56

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