About 4-5 years ago I attempted to preserve some lemons in salt as per lots of recipes for Morrocan preserved lemons for tagine etc.

I didn't ever get around to using any of them and also used an inappropriate clip top jar which allowed gas to escape and the salt badly corroded the metal parts. The lemons turned an unappealing brown colour and also went gross & mushy so I finally tipped them out into the compost today.

The weird thing was the salty juice which seeped out of the lemons had turned into a really well set gel. Everywhere I have looked claims that pectin only sets with sugar and jam also needs cooking to 105 degrees c otherwise no gel will form.

How did these raw salted lemons make a gel?

It would be very cool if I could do the same thing with sugar and make a raw citrus marmalade!

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    I would take those out of the compost for 2 reasons. Loads of salt is bad for compost. Also I read that lemon skins kill worms; not sure if true for these brown rotten ones but my rule is no citrus.
    – Willk
    Commented Nov 21, 2020 at 23:03
  • Limonene in fresh citrus peel (oranges have more) is toxic to worms in a high enough concentration but I have seen experiments of feeding peels straight to wormeries without killing them so I'm not worried about that. The salt you may have a good point about
    – Gemma
    Commented Nov 22, 2020 at 17:44

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It is possible that you have precipitated the proteins to some extent by the salt concentration (known in biological fields as "salting out"), which might produce a gel-like blob, just like cooking egg-white does.

You can indeed also precipitate proteins with sugars (e.g. here), though it is more commonly used for extraction of organic acids (e.g. decenoic acid) from fruits etc, it will take quite a bit of experimentation to do this as it usually requires a very high concentration of sugar and quite a high concentration of protein too. You are more likely to get the pectin (which is a polysaccharide) to work, before you get the proteins to precipitate in a sugar solution.

  • Thanks bob, it's an interesting idea but don't lemons only have a tiny amount of protein? Can the pectin work without heat?
    – Gemma
    Commented Nov 22, 2020 at 17:46
  • @Gemma - only a small amount of protein in the juice, but the rest of the lemon has quite a bit. They also have a high amount (like all plants) of polysaccharides and other sugar-like molecules that might be playing a role here.
    – bob1
    Commented Nov 23, 2020 at 7:37

Three other possibilities are (I think #3 is most likely):

  1. salt-tolerant mucilage-producing bacteria. I don't know of a species, but it's possible.

  2. pectinase happened. Pectin is activated with heat as you said. But pectin can be enzymatically broken down into simple sugars and acids. Over time, as water evaporated through the corroded seal, the sugars present in the lemon and from the broken down pectin would concentrate along with the various acids to form a thick syrup which might appear as a gel.

  3. low-methoxyl pectin which can set at room temperature and is present in citrus peels. It requires a little sugar and calcium to set... Both of which lemons do possess in small quantities. My personal guess is that over time as water evaporated and cell walls broke down releasing pectin, the sugars and calcium naturally present in the lemons reached concentrations that allowed the low methoxyl pectin to set properly.

Having said all that, it's impossible to know for sure what happened to your nightmare lemons, but as far as raw marmalade goes, it's 100% possible if you use additional pectin. You can buy the no-cook type in most US grocery stores in the canning section (unless that's just a southern thing? I don't know.)

But the pectin present in the lemon peel and cell walls won't come out and become useable unless those cells are broken down, and the usual ways for that to happen are heat (which defeats your purpose) or bacterial action/decomposition (I don't know how to do it safely, so just say no, kids). I suppose you could try puree-ing the living daylights out of a lemon and see if you can get enough pectin to come out mechanically that way, but... I have no idea if that would work and I personally doubt it.

  • I didn't know 'LM' pectin was naturally occurring and haven't been able to find any information to how it is made either but the jelly really IS gelled so maybe that's what happened, the lemons were incredibly broken down!
    – Gemma
    Commented Nov 26, 2020 at 19:55

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