I am trying to make sweet sushis that look like standard (savory) ones. Most of them I can make easily (using black-coloured pancakes as nori sheets, grapefruit as salmon, kiwis as avocado, and s.o.).

But I am stuck when I try to simulate a slice of salmon around the rice. Something like that

I read a hint from a (french) recipe : using a mixture of gelatin and fruits purée, spread over a silicon sheet. Unfortunately, I have tried it many ways, but kept encountering the same pb : it's sticky and nearly impossible to remove from the silicon without tearing it miserably.

My question is not about how to simulate the salmon slice (I will find other ideas), but about how I can (or IF I can!) make such a gelatin-based slice that I can easily remove from the silicon (or whatever tool you may suggest)

Any idea/hint?

  • have you tried edible rice paper? – csk May 21 at 19:22

I can't read French fluently (or quickly), so I missed any specifics there.

It looks like you probably already cooked your fruit puree? If not, you should. Various fruits contain enzymes that will actively break down the gelatin protein and prevent it from setting properly. This would typically leave a bitter taste. But this might not be your problem.

The other thing you can try is simply using more gelatin powder. 2.25 teaspoons will set about 2 cups of liquid to a fairly soft consistency. You can increase the amount of gelatin to get a firmer, non-sticky gelatin sheet.

I will occasionally make gelatin "noodles" for dessert by 1) hydrating roughly 1/4 cup of unflavored gelatin with 1/2 cup of water, 2) and melting the lump of gelatin in 2 cups of whatever flavored/sweetened liquid I like. I let it set in a non-stick baking dish, or just a Pyrex dish, and generally gave no issue removing the sheet from the pan or slicing it into noodles. The edges might stick, but generally once the seal is broken, the gelatin can be slowly, gently pulled off the bottom of the pan. It will stretch a bit without breaking.

That works out to nearly 4 times the amount of required gelatin. I haven't experimented with reducing that amount since it serves my purposes, but there is plenty of room to do so. The texture of this gelatin is very firm, but it will still melt in your mouth, if more slowly, and is not rubbery or chewy. It also is not the least bit sticky.

  • sorry for my late answer (I had to try a few times to find the good match). Yes, the more the better : that was a good solution. And I did not cook my fruits puree, but I will try that too, because you sound like you have a good point here – Marvin Jul 8 at 8:20

Idea 1:

Sprinkle confectioners sugar on silicone sheet before putting down jelly. Confectioners sugar is sugar and corn starch and it will limit adherence. It will not be weird in a dessert.

Idea 2:

Do not use silicone sheet. Use a nonstick frying pan. Do all the rest as instructed recipe (in refrigerator etc). Teflon is more unsticky than silicone.

Idea 3:

Abandon gelatin/fruit salmon and make fake salmon slices out of marzipan.

  • @Wilk first idea does not work unfortunately : the gelatin "absobs" the sugar. I would need so much of it that it would not look like salmon anymore. About teflon : that does not prevent the gelatin to tear apart. Eventually, the idea is mainly to understand whether I can do stg with gelatin, regardless of its actual purpose. I agree that I can fake salmon slices with other tricks – Marvin Jul 8 at 8:18

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