I have tried making pudding from recipes that have cornstarch and one with flour. Neither has the same smoothness of the cooked packaged mixes. What is the magic in the packaged mix? I am looking for a more smooth pudding recipe.

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    the no-cook "instant" pudding, or the cooked style? Commented Jun 30, 2013 at 18:11
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    You know I just assumed it was instant, since cooked pudding mixes seem to have vanished....
    – SAJ14SAJ
    Commented Jun 30, 2013 at 18:14
  • @SAJ14SAJ, to-cook mixes are available in my local supermarket (not a specialty supermarket) (St. Louis, Mo., USA).
    – msh210
    Commented Jul 1, 2013 at 19:39

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The Industrial Product

By way of example, this is the list of ingredients from Jello Vanilla Instant Pudding and Pie Filling mix (a very common brand in the US):

Modified Cornstarch
contains less than 2% of Natural and Artificial Flavor
Disodium Phosphate
Tetrasodium Pyrophosphate (for Thickening)
Mono- and Diglycerides (prevent Foaming)
Artificial Color
Yellow 5
Yellow 6
BHA (Preservative)

The ingredients that are not well known, or are that are relevant to the texture are:

  • Modified cornstarch. The label does not specifically say how the cornstarch has been treated or modified, but it is likely that it is pre-gelatinized which is what allows it to be "instant pudding", thickening with the addition of cold liquid.

  • Disodium Phosphate. Anti-caking agent. This allows the mix to flow freely after storage.

  • Mono- and Diglycerides. Emulsifiers.

  • Tetrasodium Pyrophosphate. Per Wikipedia:

    Sodium pyrophosphate is used as a buffering agent, an emulsifier, a dispersing agent, and a thickening agent

    Note that this both emulsifies which helps create smoothness and uniformity, and thickness.

What you do not see in the mix is any true dairy or egg products. The pudding is entirely a creation of these thickening agents, and the flavor only from the natural or artificial flavors (which might or might not include vanilla extract, but more likely are vanillin and other flavors).

Home Production

Puddings (at least in US usage of the word) are a variant on custards, where the thickening power of eggs in a basic custard is supplemented with a starch.

It is not really possible to achieve a consistency identical to that provided by the industrial ingredients, so if you are using that as your standard, you will fail.

Still, an extremely smooth product with a delicate mouth feel (which in my personal opinion is actually superior) is possible by creating a pudding based on:

  • Rich dairy, about 10-18% or more milkfat (half and half, or richer)
  • Egg yolks (but not the whites), for thickening. The natural lecithin in the yolks contributes smoothness, and the proteins contribute thickness. Omitting the egg whites removes the somewhat rubbery mouthfeel that the albumens in the white contribute to thickened dishes.
  • Cornstarch for supplemental thickening and to help bind the pudding.

The ratio is very very approximately: 1 quart (1 liter) dairy to 6 eggs yolks to 4 tablespoons cornstarch.

These puddings can be created stove top or baked in the oven, and can be flavored in a variety of ways. In either case, you must use good technique to avoid curdling the eggs.

  1. Beat the yolks to light golden color.
  2. Mix the cornstarch, sugar (and other dry ingredients) with a small amount of dairy, just enough to create a smooth slurry. Then add the remainder of the dairy and egg yolks, and mix.
  3. Bring to a slow bubble (about 180 F, 82 C) on top of the stove.
  4. Strain and chill.
  • 18% would normally be single cream (UK light cream). Half and half is normally 10%.
    – Aaronut
    Commented Jun 30, 2013 at 18:14
  • Wiki says 10-18%. I know i have converted my pudding recipes to be based on 1 qt half and half (but I haven't checked the specific level of my local product), which makes it much easier to just but a single container of dairy, so at that level there is sufficient fat for the texture.
    – SAJ14SAJ
    Commented Jun 30, 2013 at 18:17
  • I was afraid of that, lots of milk fat. I realized later that I had used the word smooth when creamy may have been better. If that been what I did then I would have had no need to post the question. Now I am forced make more pudding :-) -- w/o egg whites and more fat. Commented Jun 30, 2013 at 20:30
  • Awesome, detailed answer. Very educational. Thank you, SAJ14SAJ.
    – Shalryn
    Commented Apr 7, 2016 at 4:34

the thickner can be changed, I personally have trouble working with both flour and cornstarch--found this out when making gravey. Instead we use Guar Gum & Xanthan Gum. My cooking classes suggested using tapioca, pectin, gelatin, or arrowroot. quick search on wiki givea a long list.

Tradidionally arrow root is suppose to produce a shiney, smoother result but is hard to find a nd expensive. (The gums I use, we bought 8 oz packages and have been using them for over 5 years...not even 1/2 empty..and I have seen the same pacaages in the local grocrey stores near me lately)

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