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Here is my one month old De Buyer pan:

afar

I've seasoned it off and on in the last month at least 10 times, using thin layers of oil and on the stove top. It's very dark brown to black over the entire cooking surface. This is my first pan that requires seasoning (carbon steel or cast iron) so I'm just feeling my way in the dark here.

I had some initial traumatic experiences with bacon. The "internets" claim that bacon is fatty and great to break-in a newly seasoned pan. Lies. Lies. The sugar in bacon burnt into the pan and I had to boil water to remove the stains, which took some seasoning away. Since then I've cooked eggs, pancakes, Kartoffelpuffer, char kway teow, and caramelized steak with great success. I'm finally starting to feel this pan is living up to the hype.

After charring some sous vide steaks over high heat this morning, I noticed black splotches on the pan:

burnt on seasoning

I've cleaned the pan (water, brush, plastic scrubby) probably more than I should already, so this is not something that can be cleaned off. That makes sense as the high heat used to char the steaks is very similar to a seasoning session. It's just uneven.

Is this (making the pan bottom slightly uneven) a problem? Is this to be expected? Is this the type of thing repeated ad infinitum that makes heirloom cast iron so valuable?

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  • I'm a little puzzled because those two pictures don't appear to be of the same pan. ???
    – Jolenealaska
    Aug 10, 2014 at 1:10
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    They are the same pan taken seconds apart. I tilted in the second picture and used the flash to highlight the burnt on bits.
    – event_jr
    Aug 10, 2014 at 2:28
  • probably the kitchen-wisdom that bacon is great for a newly seasoned pan was started before people started putting sugar in the bacon.
    – rumtscho
    Aug 10, 2014 at 13:19

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In the restaurant, we just poured some coarse salt into the pan and put it on high heat (gas range). Then tossed the salt around and poured out the results.

At home, with the electric range top, I put my carbon steel wok on a burner on high (it's scary, but it works) and watch as everything burns off and the carbon steel "steel" look returns.

The brilliance doesn't last but the surface does. I use a cotton rag that is very lightly dabbed in peanut oil to brush the surface while it's hot.

And then it darkens when it's cooling/cooled.

Don't hesitate to go hot, really hot. Just be safe at the same time.

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  • The clean with salt thing is described elsewhere as a part of the "ritual" cleaning after use. How often do you do it?
    – event_jr
    Aug 10, 2014 at 16:31
  • In the restaurant it was an everyday practice. At home, I'll perform the ritual as needed - sometimes cooking other things will remove the residue and it's no longer an issue. I've had my carbon steel wok look like your reference pic and just leaving it on scary-high heat burned it off and seasoned the surface. Open your window and turn on the exhaust fan, it doesn't take long.
    – Michael E.
    Aug 11, 2014 at 2:57
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    I did the salt thing with a little bit of oil to properly clean rest of the pan and then the dry high heat burn-off and it worked.
    – event_jr
    Aug 13, 2014 at 3:44
  • Thanks for the feedback. Just to clarify for future readers... Did you have cast iron or carbon steel?
    – Michael E.
    Aug 23, 2014 at 5:46
  • Carbon steel...
    – event_jr
    Aug 24, 2014 at 23:11
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Your residue looks like burnt on carbohydrates to me. It can happen with both sugar and bread, but bread gives it a different shape, it chars in a crumb-like texture. Yours seems like viscous caramel flowed until it burnt on.

The seasoning of a young pan is indeed quite sensitive. Don't make sticky stuff in it.

What I have found to work well in new pans is meat with sufficient amount of fat, such as marbled chops or steaks. You also need to do some decent deglazing after that, to remove the stuck-on meat.

If you get protein residue, make something with wet eggs to clean it. Crepes work great for leaving you with mirrorlike pan seasoning. Use a little bit of oil between every 2-3 crepes. If you can do good scrambled eggs or an omelette, this is also a good pan "cleaner", and the residue taste fits better. But if you are likely to dry out the eggs, it can happen that they take off the not-yet-settled seasoning with them.

Wet carbohydrates (such as the flour in crepe batter) are no problem, but once dry carbohydrates burn on, I don't know of any method to remove them without damaging the seasoning (and sugar syrup counts as a dry carbohydrate if it stays for long enough to caramelize). Just don't use them on new pans. Once your pan is seasoned well with use, you can start using them, but always combine them with sufficient fat - you should be shallow frying the items which have them, not grilling.

The oil which you used for seasoning also matters. I've seen lots of sources to recommend flax and other unsaturated oils, because they polymerise easier. The problem is that they are also stickier after polymerisation, especially if the polymerisation wasn't complete. Try seasoning with something which has a larger percentage of saturated fat (lard, coconut oil) and cooking with it the first few times. If you are doing a multi-layer seasoning, you can start the first one or two layers with flax, for a better grip between polymer and metal, but seal it with a saturated oil.

If you cannot physically remove the caramel residue but want to strip the seasoning and start anew, remove it chemically. Use a strong base, I prefer a lye soak. Don't use acid, it will rust the pan in seconds. You can also leave it there, but it will reduce the evenness of heat transfer and increase the chance that the new seasoning flakes off.

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  • What's the downside of just letting it build and even seasoning on top of the black residue? It does not seem to affect the non-stick qualities of the pan.
    – event_jr
    Aug 10, 2014 at 16:32
  • @event_jr the structural difference of having multiple chemically distinct layers with interfaces between them, as well as a less even geometry, will interfere with the evenness of heating and will increase the chance of the new seasoning flaking off. I am certain that this is the kind of effect you'll get, but I don't know what the scale of the effect will be in practice - you could season over it and hope that the difference will be too small to notice.
    – rumtscho
    Aug 10, 2014 at 16:38

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