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I cook every day, and today I had an experience I am at a total loss to explain. I am hoping the combined knowledge of the Internet can help.

Today, I decided to make a tropical fruit custard. Being as it's passover, it contained matzoh meal. I blended the ingredients together, and it tasted fine--a little bland, but fine. I sprayed a casserole dish with canola oil, and poured in the mixture. 30 minutes later, I test it for doneness with my finger, then taste the batter on my finger. It was BITTER! Not curdled milk, not sour, not anything but overwhelming bitterness, like I was chewing on the pith of a grapefruit.

I ate some raisins to cleanse my palette, drank a glass of water, and tried again with a spoon. BITTER. I called down my fiance, who loves this sort of thing. (I was making it for her.) She made a face and said "bitter!" In three letters, WTH? Any help would be very welcome.

  • 2 cups Goya frozen coconut
  • 1 cup frozen mango
  • 1 cup frozen pineapple
  • 1/2 tsp Vanns Spices coconut extract (propylene glycol base)
  • 1 tsp homemade vanilla (Madagascar beans, vodka base)
  • 1 cup matzo meal
  • 1 cup Breakstones lowfat cottage cheese
  • 1 cup Wegman's egg white
  • 1/2 cup Fage 0% greek yogurt
  • 1/2 cup Breakstone's lowfat sour cream
  • 2 tbsp sugar
  • 1 tsp molasses

These are all ingredients that I use routinely, with the exception of the Vanns. None of them are particularly bitter. (Molasses is slightly bitter, of course, but nothing like this.)

I had cleaned the casserole dish two days earlier, dried it by hand, and put it on the shelf. I washed the pan with soap and a scrubbing pad. Its preceding use was in roasting tomatoes. Burnt tomatoes can be bitter, but not like this, and anyways, it was pretty clean. It definitely didn't taste like soap.

Does propylene glycol have some kind of reaction where it can turn into hell bitter juice? What else can it be?

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    Welcome to the site! Thank you for such a detailed and fully explained question, we'd love to see more of these here!
    – Stephie
    Apr 10, 2015 at 6:30

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The culprit is the pineapple.

Raw pineapple contains bromelain, an enzyme that breaks down the protein in your milk, making it bitter. The same principle is applied when bromelain is used as meat tenderizer, either as powdered additive or as fruit-based brine.

This process takes a short while, so if you used pineapple in your cereal and eat it right away, it will not be bitter (unless the enzyme content in your fruit is excepitonally high), but after 30 minutes it will be noticeable.

Bromelaine will also keeping gelatine from firming up. Heating destroys the enzyme, so canned pineapple is perfectly "safe".

Other fruit with similar properties are papaya (papain) and kiwifruit (actinidin).

This article explains it a bit more in detail.

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    Exactly what I was going to say, I was just researching this today along with papain which is also a meat tenderizer found in papaya. I believe there is also an enzyme similar to both the bromelain and the papain, found in mango's as well. Always be cautious when using tropical fruits and dairy, kiwi's another fruit that has a natural meat tenderizer.
    – Chef_Code
    Apr 10, 2015 at 6:35
  • So cooking the pineapple would have prevented the bitterness? That's good to know, great answer @Stephie!
    – GdD
    Apr 10, 2015 at 7:28
  • @GdD: absolutely. Always keep dairy products and gelatin apart from pineapple, kiwi and the likes. Actually, that's why I prefer canned pineapple for dairy-based deserts and cake fillings. (And I'm someone who always uses fresh produce whenever possible.) Canned pineapple come unsweetened, too.
    – Stephie
    Apr 10, 2015 at 7:33
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    Oh, that's why that milk and kiwi smoothie I drank years ago tasted terrible.
    – Agos
    Apr 17, 2015 at 8:38
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    @RachelS the enzymes will react with various proteins (one of the reasons pineapple is sometimes used in meat marinades where it softens the meat), but I can’t say whether they will always create bitter compounds. The meat example suggest that there are cases where it’s ok. I have no experience with hemp „milk“ or similar.
    – Stephie
    Jan 11, 2018 at 15:23
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The combination of fresh pineapple and the cottage cheese is where the bitter taste came from. I found that out when we moved to Hawaii. Before that, I used to eat cottage cheese with canned pineapple for breakfast a lot. After moving to Hawaii I chopped the fresh pineapple and mixed it with the cottage cheese………tasted like penicillin!

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  • I edited your question to add clarity. If that is not what you meant, you can edit out any errors.
    – Esther
    May 5 at 18:54
  • Is this opposed to eating cottage cheese with canned pineapple...or the fact that it was in Hawaii? How did it taste like butter and like "penicillin"? Was it spoiled?
    – gnicko
    May 6 at 2:21
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    – gnicko
    May 6 at 2:22

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