The German restaurant where I worked was famous for their 'giant' cream puffs. The shells are at least 6" in diameter and 4" high. I know they used commercial convection ovens to bake them, but that is all I know. Is it the fan that gives them the size? I tried to bake them in a conventional oven and failed. Small ones, no real size. I have seen them in grocery store bakeries in that area so somebody knows how to make these. Can anyone tell me how to make these huge choux pastry shells?

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    Did you try using a lot more dough in each portion? It seems like a silly question but I don't see how they could turn out small if you used a mound of dough. Maybe not fluffy or crisp but not small. May 12, 2015 at 22:13
  • I definitely used a large amount of dough; however, in my conventional oven it did not spread nor rise like the ones in the restaurant I mentioned. I know the restaurant did not pipe the dough either. They make such huge volumes of shells, it would be cost prohibitive (labor). I'm thinking it's the convection fan. Thanks for your reply,
    – kay jones
    May 14, 2015 at 18:03

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You haven't really explained what you did, so it's a bit hard to give useful advice on how to overcome a failure, but my patê à choux pastries have always come out sized proportional to the amount of pastry I use.

Since choux doesn't tend to spread much, make sure your base is close to the diameter you're after; I just pipe inside out, creating a connected spiral, until I reach the desired diameter. I continue piping inward through the middle of the original grooves. My preference is to make tiny ones, but if I needed to make larger ones I'd just continue spiraling in and out as needed until I get to the point where I only have a "tip" left. With a typical Ateco extra-large tip you'll probably get about an inch of puff for each layer, so you probably just need about 3 layers, because you can probably compensate with an overstuffed filling. With more layers than that you may lose structural support.

Some "giant" cream puffs I've seen online just used a large ice cream scoop, but I think that'll probably only get you to about 3-4" diameter at the most. If you don't like the piping approach, you might cluster three scoops near each other and wet-pat them so that they touch.

From then on, it's just a matter of adjusting time and temperature. Larger ones likely need a longer baking time. Additionally, larger ones may benefit from a larger proportion of egg white to encourage a bit crisper outer layer.


I have recently come across a way to keep the shape of hollow pastries during baking:

Wrap your dough around a handful of marshmallows. The marshmallows will hold the dough structure while the dough expands and hardens.
The marshmallows will eventually melt in to a pool of sugar at the bottom of the pastry that you can remove or leave in as a surprise.

  • But how would you wrap something with patê à choux? That's different from puff pastry.
    – Stephie
    May 13, 2015 at 23:24
  • I am still an amateur baker. It looks like Jason has a better answer.
    – Matthew
    May 14, 2015 at 4:53
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    It's absulutely fine to answer here even if you consider yourself an amateur. In fact, I like the idea of using marshmallows as internal support, sounds pretty ingenious! I only doubt that this is the way to go for choux pastry. Besides, I wanted to double check whether you had (wrongly) connected "cream puffs" with "puff pastry" - a common confusion. If the comunity thought this answer was bad, you'd be getting downvotes, not comments ;-)
    – Stephie
    May 14, 2015 at 5:11
  • Oh! You are right! Cream puffs and puff pastries are different. Time for more studying :)
    – Matthew
    May 14, 2015 at 5:13

I had a baker give me a cream puff recipe using ammonia nitrate in making cream puffs. He also gave me about pound of ammonia nitrate (rising agent), made the best cream puff and also very light, but finally ran out of ammonia nitrate and bakery move so am not able to get the ammonia nitrate.

  • I'm removing your last sentence as it is a new question. If you have a question about how to find an ingredient, please ask it as a new question rather than posting it as an answer.
    – Catija
    Jan 10, 2017 at 3:44

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