Imagine you bought a piece of venison (unknown which part of the body, and exact species unknown, but probably red deer), and I have only a Le Creuset cast iron pot to prepare it. What would be the procedure to have the best chance of the meat ending up tender and tasty? Frying is not allowed because of advanced glycation end products (AGEs), nor is any method which will cause these to form in high levels. But I don't want to end up with a tough, dry, difficult to eat piece.

Please post an exact procedure to cook it tender, including things you think are obvious, as I am not very experienced in cooking so maybe I am missing something obvious, and so it turns out tough and dry when I tried to braise it, and the longer I cooked the tougher it was.

  • I think I'd be nervous cooking meat from an unknown part of an unknown kind of animal. Well, maybe not nervous cooking it, but definitely nervous contemplating eating it. Jul 18, 2016 at 0:34
  • @DanielGriscom: in UK for example game meat often sold in supermarkets is usually not described what species of animal is it, just "venison" (which is generic for deer without specifying which species of deer). I've seen game meat in various supermarkets in UK, never seen the name of the species on it. I bought such meat on few occasions, was expensive and ended up dry and tough, hence the question.
    – lowtoxin
    Jul 18, 2016 at 0:44
  • Ahhh... your edits (changing "unknown game animal" to "unknown exact species of deer") narrow things down greatly. The original description would have been consistent with duck, boar, bison, deer, salmon, who knows... Jul 18, 2016 at 1:10

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it turns out tough and dry when I tried to braise it, and the longer I cooked the tougher it was

Then it is impossible to achieve what you want.

All "low and slow" methods overcook the muscle tissue, making it tough. At the same time, they melt the collagen in the meat, turning it into lubricating gelatine. The cooked meat then consists of muscle fibres embedded in the melted collagen, and is fall-apart-tender. You have probably had it as pulled pork or similar dishes. The requirement for this type of cooking: you need a high amount of collagen. If you don't, you will just end with the tough muscle fibres sticking to each other instead of swimming in collagen, so it will be one piece of tough meat.

How do you know that a piece of meat has enough collagen? You can use heuristics such as taking a look at it and recognizing the amount of connective tissue present, and also your knowledge about the animal and its parts (older animals and more supportive parts have more collagen). But the final test is cooking. If the longer you cook, the more tender the meat, it has enough collagen for low-and-slow. If it turns tougher, then it is not suitable for slow cooking.

The second option is hot-and-fast. It always produces AGEs. You excluded this.

The third option would be sous vide. As you 1) specified a cast iron pot, and 2) probably don't have a sous vide stick to suspend in that pot, and 3) don't know enough about the meat to look up the proper time and temperature even if you have the stick, that seems also out of question.

It seems that you need to buy some other meat. From there on, the proper procedure is to follow any recipe for low and slow cooking you choose.

  • what do people do with such meat usually? I find it hard to believe that people pay a lot of money to buy venison just to eat a tough dry thing. Also I don't believe most people sous vide it. If we remove the restriction of using only a cast iron pot, does it get possible?
    – lowtoxin
    Jul 18, 2016 at 13:31
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    They use the hot-and-fast methods, such as making steaks, roasts and dozens of other similar dishes which produce a tasty seared crust. I would even say that in modern Western cooking, these are the most popular cooking methods for meat.
    – rumtscho
    Jul 18, 2016 at 13:36

A third option is to mince it and bake something like a venison cottage pie (you've ruled out burgers). This will have the effect of mechanically tenderising it as well as breaking it up into little pieces which won't seem as chewy. You may want to mix in a little beef mince (of the fatty kind) if you suspect the meat is rather lean (and tough venison can be). Of course, you need a mincer to do this.


For getting tender meat, you typically have two choices --

  1. Low and slow cooking

  2. Hot and fast cooking (ie, a quick sear, left rare or medium rare)

Option 1 is best when there's lots of fat, which is rarely the case in game meat.

Option 2 is a problem for unknown game meat, as without knowing what animal it is, we don't know what the risk of parasites are. (so it's important to know what you're buying).

If I had the meat, I'd probably be inclined to use mechanical tenderization (ie, pounding or stabbing) if you want something more steak-like, but cook it to medium, or a low and slow cook but be mindful of how you cut it up. You could even cut it up for a stir-fry.

As you've then given us the restriction of only one choice of cooking vessel, I'd say you're best off with the slow cook. I'd personally go for stew or pot roast as the slow wet cooking tends to yield tender meat even if it's not all that fatty ... but you also said 'minimum amount of extra ingredients' ... and that starts getting into 'recipe request', which the folks on this site tend to shut down.

  • by unknown species of game, in fact I meat venison without knowing is it red deer or roe deer. Roe deer is much more tender then red deer in my experience, so that's why I posted that the species is unknown, but likely red deer. Maybe I should modify the question.
    – lowtoxin
    Jul 18, 2016 at 0:50
  • stir-fry doesn't satisfy the low-AGE requirement
    – lowtoxin
    Jul 18, 2016 at 0:57

I would be personally inclined to make a brine and make a wilder version of corned beef. I have made something similar with the tougher parts of beef ie brisket.

The process of osmosis hydrates the muscle tissue, allowing the cells to hold on to more moisture while cooking. This may give you the chance to do a slow-and-low cook.

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