Good evening all. I am going to try something tomorrow night, I wanted to see if anyone had done anything similar to give me some hints.


  • I enjoy making a buttermilk custard pie.
  • I enjoy making shoofly (molasses) pie.
  • I enjoy eating them together- they sort of give a "buttermilk biscuit with molasses" flavor combination which is tough to beat. However, serving 2 slices of pie at one time is tough. If they are big enough not to fall apart, then they are too big to eat in one setting.

Solution: Tomorrow night, I am going to make a deep dish buttermilk/shoofly pie, but keep the fillings separate...? The theory is that both pies are cooked in a partially prebaked shell, at the same temperature, for the same amount of time. When I prebake the shell, I am going to

  1. Build an internal circular wall in it, approximately the height of the pie dish (so I have an inner "crust" circle inside the shell).
  2. Figure out some way to arrange the pie weights and bake it off
  3. Cool crust, leaving 2 separate locations for filling.
  4. Pour a half batch of the custard on the inside, a half batch of the molasses on the outside (or vice versa), and cook

I imagine the very tops of the 2 fillings will sort of merge into each other, but if all goes well most of the fillings will stay separate.

This is a wild experiment- thoughts and suggestion (especially if you've tried anything similar) would be appreciated! I'll update this thread tomorrow with pictures.

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    Welcome! We do prefer that questions are, well, questions - it might be nice if you rewrote this slightly, perhaps to ask how to get the two pies in one, and whether your method seems likely to work. (But I think people will get the idea, anyways.)
    – Cascabel
    Commented Oct 5, 2017 at 3:51
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    Can you compare the fillings' liquidity to each other? That is, if one is thicker or stiffer in consistency, or if they're about the same - some recipes can be more or less moist before baking. Also it would help to know how liquid they are in general, a solution working for a thicker filling (like molasses texture) may not work as well for a thinner one.
    – Megha
    Commented Oct 5, 2017 at 4:39
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    How important is it for you that the two fillings are clearly (or "cleanly") separated?
    – Stephie
    Commented Oct 5, 2017 at 5:09
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    You must, Must, MUST update this Q with results! Commented Oct 5, 2017 at 12:13
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    As @Jefromi points out, like Jeopardy, we like things in the form of a question. But you get extra credit if you pose a question...then, with an "experiment", answer the question by sharing your results. We will all applaud...you will feel good.
    – moscafj
    Commented Oct 6, 2017 at 0:02

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Frankly, I'd be too lazy to fiddle with a "separating wall" shell - partly because unless very well supported its likely to collapse during blind baking anyway.

My tool of choice would be a small cake ring or, in a pinch, a strip of aluminum foil, folded a few times and shaped into a circle.

Place the ring on the prebaked shell, pour the fillings into the inner and outer compartment. Then you have two choices:

  1. Place the pie in the oven, carefully lift the separating ring, bake. The key is that the pie shouldn't be moved after you took out the separation. (Unless you are ok with some "merging"). This is the method I'd choose.
  2. Bake the pie with the ring in place, remove just before it sets. This will give you a clearer separation, but may leave you with a "scar" on the pie. And depending on your filling, it might stick to the ring.

As for the fillings, I recommend that you put the "less runny" one in first, that will prevent a more liquid filling from "creeping under" the ring too much. For very liquid fillings, you might have to hold the ring down a bit, but don't "cut through" the shell!

Finally, note that geometry plays a role: if you use equal parts of fillings, the outer ring will seem narrower than the inner circle.

  • For equal amounts of filling, the diameter of the inner circle should be 70% of the whole diameter.
  • Alternatively, you could use 1/4 + 3/4 of a recipe to get an inner circle that's half the diameter of the outer.
  • For every other case, do the math yourself, remembering that the area of a circle is Pi times radius2. Or that the area grows squared - twice the radius means four times the area or volume. (Height can be ignored, if we assume that this should remain the same.)
  • The hacky solution would be to bake two pies and swap the position of the fillings - no math, no need to find or craft a specific ring size. And possibly a nice gift for a friend or neighbor.
  • Not slicing them until tomorrow, will post pics Sunday. Thanks all, especially @Stephie for the math help!
    – rpierce
    Commented Oct 6, 2017 at 4:26
  • Pre-filling: Pre-filling
  • Filled: Filled
  • Sliced: Sliced (sorry for poor quality, most of pie was eaten before I got this)

So... worked okay. The internal wall did a good job keeping the fillings separated, but did seem to cause the slice to want to split down the middle. In the future, I'd just do the shoofly custard on the bottom, pull it out and completely cool it, then do the buttermilk custard on top. BTW, the fillings were very good- both came from "Pie" by Ken Haedrich.

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