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I have often heard it said that it's essential to use a gas burner for cooking fried rice because you need to get the wok very hot, and only a gas burner has that kind of heat. (they're referring to those jet engine kind of burners)

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However, I have an induction hob at home, and it has a "Power" setting, which can be used to get a pan of water boiling very quickly. The power of that setting is terrifying, but I don't know exactly how many Watts it's delivering.

I wonder if an induction hob shaped to match a wok, like this one, might actually have as much heating power as a gas burner:

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My questions:

  1. How much actual power (in Watts) is delivered by a wok gas burner? I.E. If I added 1 litre of water to the wok, how long would it take to raise the temperature of that water by 1 degree?
  2. Does anyone know if these wok induction hobs are actually used in practice, cooking fried rice for the kinds of people who would notice if their rice wasn't fried properly?
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    Does this answer your question? Induction range vs gas. In addition there are a ton of these questions already - use the search bar and have a browse through them to see if any suit. The answer to 1 is it depends entirely on the exact make and model of the hob and 2 is if they sell them, then people do use them...
    – bob1
    Commented Apr 30, 2023 at 21:01
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    @bob1 Woks are a unique situation, because of the unusual (and potentially problematic for induction) shape, and because the power requirement is so far above any other cooktop situation.
    – Sneftel
    Commented Apr 30, 2023 at 22:20
  • I don't think this is a duplicate. None of the other questions specifically talked about the specialized induction wok burners.
    – FuzzyChef
    Commented Apr 30, 2023 at 22:32
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    @bob1 - Thanks, but my question is not a duplicate of your suggested question. I'm interested in the actual amount of power delivered by the two types of hob. The other question only addresses subjective experience of using the two types of hob. Commented May 1, 2023 at 11:23
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    @FuzzyChef I think we are arguing at cross purposes - of course you can compare outputs, but that wasn't the question asked, which was: How much actual power (in Watts) is delivered by a wok gas burner? to which the answer is "it depends on the hob".
    – bob1
    Commented May 3, 2023 at 20:44

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TL;DR: you can make this work, but it will require adaptation, and you need to get a high-powered burner

Despite not being Asian, I cook in my woks a lot. When I shopped for a new stove, I chose to get gas, and making wok cooking easy was one of the reasons. Several wok cooking techniques rely heavily on being able to move the wok while continuing to heat it, and only gas permits that.

However, there are folks who disagree, such as Jon Kung. In a video, he demonstrates that you can definitely make fried rice in a wok over induction. You'll notice that his technique is different, though; it's all spatula, and pretty much no shaking the wok. So clearly, it can be done, although I'll note that quality wok induction burners are quite expensive.

"How fast does water boil" is pretty much the exact wrong measure for whether a burner will work for a wok. One rarely, if ever, boils water in a wok. Instead, you need to know:

  • What's the maximum temperature that the burner supports? Wok-frying needs to go to at least 500F (260C), and many induction burners stop at 400F or 450F.
  • How quickly does the burner return the wok to temperature after ingredients cool it?

It's the latter part that makes conventional electric elements fail for woks; no matter how hot those resistance elements get, they take a long time to get there. Induction is much more promising.

As for heat equivalents: the coventional multiplier for converting electric watts to BTU is 3.41. Thus, the induction burner that Kung recommends would be about (1500 x 3.41) the equivalent of a 5000BTU gas burner, which would be pretty low. However, as you note, a lot of heat is lost by gas burners. Induction is around 90% efficient, whereas gas is as low as 40%.

So that 1500W burner would be equivalent to ( 1500 * 3.41 * (90/40) ) a 11500 BTU gas burner. Still pretty underpowered for stir-frying, though; notice that Kung gets around this by making very small batches. For comparison, I use a 25000BTU gas burner, and restaurant ones go up to 150000. So you're going to want an induction burner that's at least 2500W, which is more easily done in Europe than in the USA, where it would require special wiring in the kitchen.

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    Thanks, this is a good answer with some useful numbers to compare the power delivery. However, I must disagree about the water boil indication. The maximum possible temperature of the wok, and the time taken to return to temperature after cool ingredients go in are both affected by the power delivered to the wok by the hob. One way we can measure the actual power delivered to the wok (not just wasted as hot gas) is to time how long it takes to heat up some water. Commented May 1, 2023 at 11:33
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    One Watt of power equals one Joule delivered per second. 4190 Joules of energy heats up one litre of water by one degree. If it takes 10 seconds to heat the water from 20 degrees to 30 degrees, then we can see that the hob is delivering 4190 Watts of power. Commented May 1, 2023 at 11:33
  • @Rocketmagnet sure, it's one way, but it's a bad way, if what you care about is not a water-boiling vessel. The "how long does water take to boil" test was introduced by vendors of electric stoves, because those do OK at boiling water while they fail at other tasks. The "boiling water is a test of heat delivery" ignores the fact that no stove is a perfect energy-to-water system, and as such HOW the heat is delivered makes a huge difference if you're trying for specific cooking techniques.
    – FuzzyChef
    Commented May 1, 2023 at 15:41
  • If you want why it's bad in scientific terms: water has a very high thermal inertia. As such, it's a very poor way of testing how quickly heat is delivered because the difference between a rapid blast of heat vs. more gradual, but still powerful, heating is erased since the initial heat is absorbed by the water. But whether or not you have that rapid blast of heat is an essential question if you're making, say, crepes -- or fried rice.
    – FuzzyChef
    Commented May 1, 2023 at 15:45
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    I think the crucial difference between the performance boiling water and the performance frying stuff will be the temperature of the pan. The heat transfer from the gas to the pan will be proportional to the temperature difference between the gas and the pan, so will be less efficient at frying than boiling water. An induction hob would be about equal efficiency.
    – User65535
    Commented May 3, 2023 at 13:30
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I had a chance recently to measure the power delivered by a reasonably high power gas burner. A professional Taiwanese chef was using it to cook egg fried rice, which everyone agreed tasted delicious, so I am going to assume it was of sufficient power.

I placed 500g of water in the wok and let the temperature equilibrate for a few seconds, then measured the temperature. Then I put the gas burner on full blast for 10 seconds, then switched it off and let the water equilibrate again for a few seconds.

The initial water temperature was 22.8ºC. After heating, the water was 44.3ºC; a rise of 21.5ºC.

The specific heat capacity of water is 4184 J/(kg K), meaning that approx 45 kJ of energy had been delivered to the water, over 10 seconds. Or 4.5kW of power over that period.

Most consumer induction hobs only seem to go as high as 3kW (presumably measured on the wire, and not as actual power delivered to the wok) so probably aren't delivering as much power as this gas burner.

However, some commercial induction hobs designed for woks, like the Target Catering Equipment range can go as high as 5kW. However, it's not clear if that's the maximum power consumed by all the rings together, or the maximum power that a single ring is capable of.

In conclusion, consumer induction hobs aren't far off the power, but don't get as high as needed, but some companies may produce hobs with enough power.

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