I have tried to make Tiramisu chocolate mousse from this video many times. The chocolate mixture turns out great. With the egg yolks I add grape juice instead of wine and soft cheese instead of marcarponi - which seems to turn out great as well.

What I fail to make is the whipped creme. I use Dano sterilized creme that is modified with vegetable oil (so it says on the can), fat 23%, made from skimmed cows milk and it says the milk fat is replaced by veg fat. I put the bowl and the whisk in the refrigerator, as well as the creme, but when I whisk it, it becomes more watery than fluffy.

So today I got Fostered Clark's Powder Whip Wonder Whip Topping; that turned out nice and frothy, but when I combined it with the chocolate-egg mixture, it did not turn out to be the way it looks in the video. I had to put it into the refrigerator so the mixture became a little more firm; I could barely hold a shape in the martini glasses.

What am I doing wrong?

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    Why don't you use proper whipping cream? Commented Nov 12, 2012 at 18:20
  • I agree with @ElendilTheTall, use real cream. It will certainly taste better than if you use yucky vegetable oil artificial gunk.
    – GdD
    Commented Nov 12, 2012 at 19:46

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If you are insistent upon substituting something for the cream, you are probably going to need to experiment with adding some soy lecithin (to make sure that the substitute fats don't separate), maybe some cold-soluble gelatin too for added stabilization (regular gelatin that has been bloomed and added when the mixture is hot might also work), and possibly a few other gelling or thickening agents.


Look into Agar Agar flakes/powder. I think it would address the issues you are having.

  • But agar agar needs to be boiled, right? That would wreak havoc on a tiramisu. Could you explain, please?
    – Stephie
    Commented Dec 24, 2015 at 13:54
  • Hi Stephie, I really have a limited knowledge of it's uses. But I am going to link a site for you to read through. The Author explains very well how she used it is her tiramisu. As you say, it must be boiled slightly, then kept warm until used, and will gel very rapidly, so having everything ready is a must. I think the article explains it best. Best wishes. Commented Dec 24, 2015 at 14:07
  • @NScottMcPherson I think the agar may be in that recipe just because it's vegan/raw so there's no cream to whip or eggs to bind things.
    – Cascabel
    Commented Dec 24, 2015 at 15:25

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